Plato And Thucydides Research Paper

Length: 3 pages Sources: 3 Subject: Black Studies - Philosophy Type: Research Paper Paper: #66496103 Related Topics: Aristotle, Happiness, Nature, Writing
Excerpt from Research Paper :

Thucydides and Plato had conflicting methods in their attitudes toward the good life. Thucydides demonstrates empirical thinking in his readings of human nature and comportment throughout the Peloponnesian War and Plato demonstrates normative thinking in the writing within his books and discourses in particular Gorigia. Plato's interpretations of a good life revolve on principles that an individual has reached contentment. What contentment means to Plato is a person who has no desires because that person possesses all-encompassing love in his/her life.

Plato understood this to be equal for everyone and that displaying entire virtue is accessible by everyone. Virtue is accessed by everyone when one has all love and none of the desires. This is how Plato views access to virtue which is markedly different from Thucydides' perspective. Plato's understanding of love more so involves a mythological comprehension of the world.

The Greek Historian, Thucydides, however, demonstrated his imperialistic methodology when narrating the history of the Peloponnesian war between Sparta. And Athens. His perspective was that of a realist with stringent morals and need for evidence. His view on pleasure for instance, was based on divine law and judicial punishment. "Thucydides and the Gorgias is the emergence...



Unlike Plato that saw the good life encompassing an understanding of the world and love, Thucydides saw the good life as someone who entirely devoted to rejection of satisfaction. "The good life, tem is the life devoted to the overcoming of satisfaction and self-satisfaction. It is a life of pain insofar as pain represents resistance" (Benardete, 2009, p. 78). One who embraces pain and resists satisfaction in Thucydides life, is living the good life. Although both Plato and Thucydides understand the value of virtue in relation to leading a good life, Thucydides attributes pain and suffering to leading a "good life."

Going more into his vision, his also so practicality as aspects of the good life especially as it pertained to politics but through a seemingly negative perspective. "Thucydides' contribution to practical life is that his vision of the nature of politics seems unremittingly bleak, diagnosing the inevitability of political disintegration and despairing of the possibility of remedy" (Mara, 2008, p. 242). Plato saw, especially in his writings, The Republic, the possibility of a just and good society and political entity. His views was not as bleak as Thucydides in that he…

Sources Used in Documents:


Benardete, S. (2009). The rhetoric of morality and philosophy: Plato's Gorgias and Phaedrus. Chicago: University of Chicago Press.

Mara, G.M. (2008). The civic conversations of Thucydides and Plato: Classical political philosophy and the limits of democracy. Albany: SUNY Press.

Van, P.R., & Westfall, C.W. (1993). Architectural principles in the age of historicism. New Haven: Yale University Press.

Cite this Document:

"Plato And Thucydides" (2014, August 31) Retrieved August 11, 2022, from

"Plato And Thucydides" 31 August 2014. Web.11 August. 2022. <>

"Plato And Thucydides", 31 August 2014, Accessed.11 August. 2022,

Related Documents
Aristotle Plato Thucydides
Words: 677 Length: 2 Pages Topic: Government Paper #: 35478847

theorists regarding political stability, the ideas and opinions of Aristotle, Plato, and Thucydides will be mentioned by thoroughly analyzing the viewpoints of these theorists in their books such as: Aristotle's "The Politics" And "Nicomachean Ethics," Plato's "The Republic," and Thucydides "The Peloponnesian War." The analysis and observations of the viewpoints of these theorists will be included in the paper. The question on which the analysis will be based is as

Plato Aristotle Pericles Although the
Words: 1924 Length: 6 Pages Topic: Black Studies - Philosophy Paper #: 48005835

This is Aristotle's launching pad for his discussion of politics. To him, ethics and politics are matters of rational judgment, stemming from the natural inclinations of individual humans. This notion is reflected in Aristotle's analysis of the constitutional doctrines of some 158 cities. Essentially, he recognized that every state -- necessarily city states -- exist in unique sets of circumstances that act upon the universal forms of ethics in ways

Thucydides Is Known As One of the
Words: 1418 Length: 4 Pages Topic: Black Studies - Philosophy Paper #: 21752285

Thucydides is known as one of the greatest historians of ancient Greece. This paper focuses on the life, work and philosophy of Thucydides. The paper also discusses the influence and significance of his theories and principles in the field of education. THUCYDIDES Thucydides was one of the greatest Greek historians who is known for his Magnus opus, "History of Peloponnesian War." This account of the great Peloponnesian War is not exactly complete

Plato and the Yahoos Week
Words: 1303 Length: 3 Pages Topic: Government Paper #: 86212440

" Pericles said that Athenians did not have to be forced to chose the lot of the soldier, they loved the land that gave them the freedom to chose to live the way they wanted, rather than to fulfill a predetermined ideal and thus, when necessary: "They resigned to hope their unknown chance of happiness; but in the face of death they resolved to rely upon themselves alone." In a

Thucydides and Democracy
Words: 2260 Length: 6 Pages Topic: Government Paper #: 67664112

Salvaging Democracy consent of the governed) then one is not in a democracy, though democratic elements may exist. America, for example, was founded as a republic and not as a democracy (though with time it has shifted towards being more ogliarchical in some aspects and more democratic in others). The more traditional definition of democracy needs to be understood if one is to approach the philosophy of the classical Greek

Ancient Greek History Thucydides, the
Words: 704 Length: 2 Pages Topic: Black Studies - Philosophy Paper #: 23513047

Instead of meaning "apology" in the modern sense, I am sorry, it is more a rhetorical device to allow one to defend one's beliefs and actions. Most of the text is written from Socrates' point-of-view, and while there were a number of accounts written about Socrates' last days, most consider Plato's version to be the most historically accurate- at least for writers of that time period. In terms of evidence,